Date is 2014-02-21, times are UTC+10.
--- Day changed Fri Feb 21 2014 08:04 < whot> Agenda: XDC Payments, updates on the GL compliance tests (if any), GSoC, SPI 08:04 < whot> stukreit, mupuf_: payments done yet? 08:04 < mupuf_> whot: you forgot XDC 2014 ;) 08:05 < mupuf_> nope, no payments yet 08:05 < stukreit> we have to get the number together. mupuf: Do you have any emails from the recipients (we should finish this up offline) 08:06 < whot> mupuf_: oh, right XDC2014. you don't get to talk about that until you've sorted out the payments for 2013 :P 08:06 < mupuf_> you mean, the email address of every recipient? I think so 08:06 < mupuf_> whot: but .... but .... I had good news :s /me is a sad little panda 08:07 < mupuf_> I should even say, very fresh news (from the day of today) 08:08 < whot> stukreit, mupuf_: please sort that out by the next meeting 08:08 < whot> mupuf_: ok, XDC2014: shoot 08:08 < mupuf_> ok, we will ;) 08:09 < mupuf_> XDC2014: We have the blessing of the director of the research lab ("excellent initiative" he said). Room booked! 08:09 < mupuf_> so, I created the XDC2014 event page 08:09 < mupuf_> and started filling it 08:10 < mupuf_> I also need to contact the sysadmins of my lab for the wifi 08:10 < mupuf_> and ask the secretaries for the contact info of the companies who usually do the catering 08:10 <+alanc> http://wiki.x.org/wiki/Events/XDC2014/ says October 8-10 - is that right after the Linux conference in Germany we were trying to follow? 08:10 < whot> alanc: right before 08:11 <+alanc> okay, so people will come to France, then hop to Dusseldorf? 08:11 < mupuf_> well, "right before", we have the week end for a social event and travel to düsseldorf 08:11 <+alanc> that sounds like it should work 08:11 < keithp> we'll manage somehow 08:12 <+alanc> even if you have to go through Brussels on the way to make up for missing FOSDEM? 08:13 < keithp> well, it's likely I'll be going through amsterdam, given the airline choices 08:13 < mupuf_> how convenient ;) 08:14 < whot> mupuf_: when are you planning the CfP for? 08:15 < mupuf_> well, usually, we send it a month before, I'll try to send it in March 08:15 < whot> also, do we usually notify lwn or do they pick it up themselves? 08:15 < keithp> whot: we usually send mail to them 08:15 < keithp> it's polite 08:16 < whot> ok, I can do that then 08:16 < mupuf_> whot: you mean, to invite them? 08:16 < keithp> mupuf_: first to get the even on the lwn calendar, I'd hope 08:16 < whot> i think we should invite them too, coverage in the past has been excellent 08:17 < keithp> yes, that'd be awesome 08:17 < marcoz> +1 to invite them if it needs a vote. 08:17 < whot> and if travel sponsorship is required I think that's a worthy investment 08:17 < mupuf_> whot: yeah, I wonder who will come though! 08:17 < whot> plus, with linuxcon/LPC after they may get sponsored by them already 08:17 < whot> mupuf_: I don't think we get to pick tha :) 08:18 < mupuf_> whot: I'm sure we don't ;) it's ok ;) 08:18 < keithp> whot: but do offer paid travel for them 08:18 < keithp> I'm not sure we should call it 'sponsorship' as it's not even close to charity... 08:19 < whot> I suspect none of the 501c3 rules get in the way there? 08:19 < keithp> I don't think so; we're paying for someone to publish articles about X.org activities 08:19 < whot> ok 08:19 < whot> do we need a vote on this? 08:20 < keithp> yes 08:20 <+alanc> probably comes under publicity 08:20 < mupuf_> and that should be a pretty usual contract 08:20 < keithp> +1 to offer paid travel to XDC for LWN.net reporter 08:20 < mupuf_> "contract" 08:20 < whot> +1 08:20 < mupuf_> +1 08:20 < stukreit> +1 08:20 <+alanc> +1 08:20 < marcoz> +1 08:20 < whot> vote carried, thanks 08:20 < whot> mupuf_: anything else for XDC? 08:21 < mupuf_> well, appart that we indeed got the room for free, nothing 08:21 < agd5f> +1 08:21 < stukreit> figure out some lodging recommendations? 08:21 <+alanc> more budget for catering/events then! 08:21 < keithp> and dining 08:22 < mupuf_> yeah, I need to have a look at the lodging 08:22 < mupuf_> I want you to sleep downtown though 08:22 < mupuf_> and take the tram in the morning 08:22 < mupuf_> this way, no stress about missing the last tram or getting too lost 08:23 < keithp> oh, so try to ride the trams only when sober 08:23 <+alanc> some of us will sleep whereever the corporate travel office approves, though we usually have a bit of choice there 08:23 < stukreit> sounds fun. Is the distance (long) walkable? I enjoyed lots of walking in nurmberg 08:23 < mupuf_> stukreit: yes, everything is walkable 08:24 < mupuf_> but if you want to go from downtown to the uni, it will take you 40-50 minutes instead of 10-15 ;) 08:24 < mupuf_> dining won't be a problem, even during the day 08:25 < mupuf_> (unless there are like 100 people coming, in this case, we'll need to rent a room in the place we usually eat) 08:25 < mupuf_> but I don't think it will happen ;) And we could also buy pizza and other delivery 08:26 < mupuf_> (in the worst case scenario) 08:26 < mupuf_> but there are like 5 good restaurants around the campus 08:26 < whot> pizza-delivery surely has to be the worst-case scenario :) 08:26 < mupuf_> italian, 2 general food and crêpes 08:27 < marcoz> I hear French pizza is up there with the wine and cheese. 08:27 * keithp imagines pizza with roast duck 08:27 < whot> ok, let's move on. mupuf_ anything noteworthy on the GSoC? 08:27 < mupuf_> keithp: we sure do that ;) 08:27 < mupuf_> nope, we'll know pretty soon though, 4 days IIRC 08:27 < whot> ok. any updates on the GL compliance tests? 08:28 < mupuf_> I don't think I was in charge of that ... can't remember what we had to do 08:28 < mupuf_> except finding someone interested in doing it 08:29 < whot> "ACTION: Contact those that suggested the items for more details" was last meeting's agenda 08:29 < whot> that was idr and someone else, iirc? 08:30 < mupuf_> yes, lynxeye 08:30 < mupuf_> I can contact lynxeye :) 08:31 <+alanc> I think that was your action mainly because you knew who asked you about it at FOSDEM to get more info from 08:32 < whot> indeed. mupuf_ pls send them both an email requesting more information 08:32 < whot> until that comes back we shouldn't spend more time on this 08:33 < whot> ok, last and probably biggest item on the Agenda: SPI. keithp? 08:33 < mupuf_> whot: agreed 08:33 < keithp> whot: I met with SFLC and SFLC+SPI last week 08:34 < keithp> SFLC described the process of dissolving the current corporation and moving assets to SPI; it looks long winded, but not particularly difficult 08:34 < keithp> We need to identify all of our assets precisely 08:34 < keithp> and that includes copyright, trademark and patents (the hard parts) along with physical assets (machines) and financial assets 08:35 < keithp> I expected to get a write up of the process from SFLC before the meeting today, but I haven't received that yet 08:35 < keithp> In any case, we'll have three years after we start the dissolution process before the corporation goes away 08:35 < keithp> so lots of time to clean things up 08:37 < keithp> SFLC handles legal work for SPI as well, which appears to simplify and complicate the process; simplify because communication is easier, and complicate as SFLC has to make sure they're wearing the right hat for each of their actions, and that both parties are aware of the potential for conflict 08:37 < keithp> Until I get the write up from SFLC, I don't know that we can do anything formally here 08:38 < mupuf_> do we have patents or was it sarcastic? 08:38 < keithp> We should make sure that we don't 08:38 <+alanc> shoot, that reminds me I still have to go chase down Leon & Stuart A. for the IP transfers from TOG to X.Org 08:38 < keithp> alanc: that would be wonderful, yes 08:38 < stukreit> Does anyone now have a list of these assets? 08:38 < keithp> as I said, we have three years to finish that kind of thing though 08:39 < keithp> stukreit: not that I know of 08:39 < stukreit> 3 years can quickly turn out to be "just enough time" 08:39 <+alanc> doubt we have any current patents, since the X Consortium folded in 1994, so we'd have hit the 17 or 20 year expiration points now 08:39 < whot> keithp: what's the worst case scenary, i.e. we can't find the IP transfers, etc. 08:39 < keithp> We certainly haven't encouraged copyright assignment, but Eric found one instance in the server sources already 08:39 < keithp> whot: I don't know 08:39 <+alanc> we may or may not own all the code listed as Copyright X Consortium or Copyright Open Group 08:40 < keithp> alanc: would be nice to sort that out 08:40 <+alanc> right, and you forwarded me some mails after Portland XDC I was supposed to follow up on and forgot about 08:40 * alanc makes notes on todo list 08:41 < whot> what I'd like to know is mainly if we can't identify some assets, would they just be left out, would that stop us joining SPI, or any other effect? I suppose it's the former --- Log closed Fri Feb 21 08:44:46 2014 --- Log opened Fri Feb 21 08:44:58 2014 08:44 -!- whot_ [~firstname.lastname@example.org] has joined #xf-bod 08:44 -!- Irssi: #xf-bod: Total of 13 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 2 voices, 11 normal] 08:45 -!- Irssi: Join to #xf-bod was synced in 5 secs 08:45 <+alanc> yeah, figured copyright was the big IP issue for us, since we never registered the trademark 08:46 -!- jcristau_ [~email@example.com] has joined #xf-bod 08:47 -!- Netsplit reticulum.oftc.net <-> coulomb.oftc.net quits: whot, jcristau 08:47 -!- Netsplit over, joins: jcristau, whot 08:48 -!- jcristau [~firstname.lastname@example.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:48 -!- marcoz [~email@example.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:48 < whot_> huh, netsplit. wonder if I missed anything 08:48 -!- whot [~firstname.lastname@example.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:49 < whot_> last message I have here was my comment "what I'd like to know", followed by alanc's "yeah, figured" 08:49 -!- Irssi: #xf-bod: Total of 11 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 2 voices, 9 normal] 08:49 < stukreit> you haven't missed anything 08:49 < mupuf_> whot_: you didn't miss anything 08:49 < whot_> we also seem to have marcoz MIA now 08:50 <+alanc> I didn't see your comment, but nothing else followed mine 08:50 < whot_> ok, to bring that back on track - we're waiting for the SFLC writeup on the process. alanc chases up TOG IP transfers 08:51 < whot_> open question is what the effect is of us failing to identify assets 08:51 < whot_> anything I'm missing? 08:52 -!- marcoz [~email@example.com] has joined #xf-bod 08:52 < marcoz> . 08:52 <+alanc> think that question has to go to SFLC if it's not covered in their writeup 08:52 < whot_> yeah 08:53 < whot_> marcoz: you haven't missed much 08:53 < whot_> marcoz: still on the same topic 08:53 < marcoz> ok. did it kick everone off? took several mins to reconnect. 08:53 < whot_> ok, there isn't much we can do until the writeup, so unless anyone else has anything they would like to bring up we can call it a day 08:53 < marcoz> whot_: thx 08:53 < whot_> well, the start of a day, in my case. 08:53 <+alanc> elections? 08:54 <+alanc> though that's pretty straight forward now: mupuf posted candidates 08:54 <+alanc> I promised to set up the ballot to run next week, since we're a week behind 08:54 < whot_> we've got 4 canditates, with the q&a period on 08:55 <+alanc> the results are a guaranteed nailbiter 08:55 < whot_> so as long as we meet the quorum the outcome won't be too surprising 08:55 < mupuf_> :) 08:55 <+alanc> unfortunately, we failed to get the SPI merger or bylaw updates done in time to throw on this ballot, so will have to hold those votes later 08:56 < whot_> inauguration exercise for the new members ;) 08:57 * agd5f re-thinks running... 08:57 < whot_> hehe 08:58 < whot_> ok, I think we're done for today. meet again in two weeks. thanks for coming